Tuesday, May 31, 2011

Défoulement

Is everyone now going to denounce every illicit sex act they've ever heard of? Luc Ferry wants to be the first.


14 comments:

meshplate said...

Ferry's claiming to have it on high authority. He says petits garcons, which means what he alludes to is potentially criminal which surely isn't simply a private matter between consenting adults.

Anonymous said...

But he won't say who it is. So, of course, if you read the users' comments of the article linked, people are having great fun accusing lots of people via hints and saying they knew already anyway.

Luc Ferry, "philosopher", has opened Pandora's box. Difficult to stop a rumor once it has been started.

Mélanie

MYOS said...

Najat Belkacem who heard the segment on RMC (she was a guest) heaved a little and asked that Luc Ferry go talk to the police about it.
Moroccan groups are asking for an inquiry.
http://www.rue89.com/confidentiels/2011/05/31/ex-ministre-et-pedophilie-une-asso-marocaine-va-porter-plainte-207170

In the meanwhile, Jack Lang is "defending" himself for his statement "after all, no one's died" (re: DSK). Everybody's misunderstood him, he's the victim of a witch-hunt, he's taught law long enough and defended the right for bails rather than custody long enough not to be forced to justify a few words taken out of context... He probably talked with FInkelkraut first.
http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2011/05/31/dsk-je-persiste-et-je-signe_1529978_3232.html

MYOS said...

Sources

http://www.rue89.com/2011/05/31/luc-ferry-et-le-scandale-etouffe-par-un-premier-ministre-207093#comments

http://www.rmc.fr/blogs/lesgrandesgueules.php?post%2F2011%2F05%2F31%2FLuc-Ferry-doit-aller-%C3%A0-la-police-!-Najat-Vallaud-Belkacem


http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actualite/politique/20110531.OBS4293/accusation-de-pedophilie-l-attitude-de-luc-ferry-est-injustifiable.html

meshplate said...

It sounds like it was the guy who said "no one died," no?

MYOS said...

If this were the case, it'd shed light on his pro-DSK comment.
But rumor is not fact. If Ferry really heard something, he should do whatever is needed to press charges against whoever it is (and based on the Figaro tale, it's not even clear there was only ONE person involved. And since it's Le Figaro, it may be safe to assume that it's someone on the left.)

If this is true, though, it's appalling that so many things are coming out only now. (Beside this, there are: Tron, Mahéas, Balkany - and I forget the others).

Cincinna said...

I didn't even have to look it up. I knew immediately to whom Ferry was referring. An open secret in Paris. .
Anyone who was in cultural or political circles in Paris during the reign of Mitterrand heard the same stories.
What surprised me is that Ferry's story comes out of a documented incident in Morocco, when the exact same thing was going on in The Ministry right smack in the middle of Paris.
'Sexus Politicus' deals with the rumors as well.
My question to Luc Ferry would be, why now?

Kirk said...

He wasn't denouncing, he was saying what would happen if he named the person in question. Big difference. I think one would need to see more context of the show, but he was giving an example of what has happened, but also what could happen (he would be charged and convicted, most likely of libel) if someone did say something.

Cincinna said...

The Guardian UK now running the story:
Former French minister Luc Ferry makes child abuse claim on TV

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/31/former-french-minister-child-abuse-claims?cat=world&type=article

Whatever point Ferry was trying to make, pedophilia, sex with little boys, is a crime, and should be reported. It has nothing to do with someone's "private life" the oft use defense of reprehensible and criminal behavior of men in power.

MYOS said...

@si has a critical piece and indicates that Ferry affirms "everyone knows it's not Lang" since apparently "everyone" knows who it is.
(paywall)
http://www.arretsurimages.net/contenu.php?id=4070

Arthur Goldhammer said...

Well, dammit, I don't know who it is, so why doesn't somebody tell me? Cincinna claims to know what everybody knows, but sometimes everybody is wrong. I don't have access to @si, so I can't even find out why it isn't Lang.

Anonymous said...

Posting the name(s) would render us liable of defamation, Arthur :)

It looks like even Ferry agrees that he has no proof of his allegation, meaning he is just rehashing old rumours.

Mélanie

Cincinna said...

It was not Luc Ferry, but someone speaking for him, who said " ce n'est pas Lang"

If it isn't Jack Lang, then there are two former ministers who had sex parties with little boys on the loose in France.

This isn't fun. We're talking about a coverup at the highest levels of French government regarding sexual activity with l
children, which is a crime.

L'affaire DSK has opened the door to revealing the dirty little secrets de la Republique. I won't be shocked when more surface.

Anonymous said...

Even if it is never proven that JL is the subject of Ferry's accusation, there is a bigger issue of public-private life hypocrisy which isnt mentioned: the whole "down low" thing with French gays. In the USA, a married politician who pretends to be straight but is actually an actively gay man, would be considered a scandal, a betrayal of his wife, and a deception of the electorate. But in France this sort of double life is common and sheltered from public exposure, though "everybody knows" (Bonjour J L!). It raises all sorts of quesitons about honesty, prejudice, hypocrisy, shame, potential blackmail.