Saturday, May 21, 2011

Female Journalists "Defend" DSK--well, um, sort of

This is a defense?

"Nos trois expériences se répondent. Aucun doute l'homme était dragueur, souvent un peu lourd. Les invitations galantes ou les plongées dans les décolletés étaient un gimmick quasi obligé des débuts de conversation, comme une entrée en matière avant d'en venir au coeur du sujet (...) Mais jamais nous n'avons été agressées ni menacées."
 As the reports continue to roll out, the picture that emerges makes it impossible to avoid the conclusion that the mores of the French political class must change. And I say "political class" in general and not just DSK because the very attitude of these women--accepting as perfectly normal behavior that in my book can only be described as goujaterie lourdingue--makes it clear that he is not the only one to issue invitations galantes ou les plongées dans les décolletés. This is what passes for "a great seducer?" The reputation of the French male will never recover.

9 comments:

the fly in the web said...

The reputation of the French male is founded on their own view of their prowess.
Not supported by evidence.

But these women who go along with the myth sicken me even more than they men whom they allow to prey on them and others.

MYOS said...

During that "debate" on F2, Hélène Jouan, editor in chief at France Inter, said (when she managed to get a word in) that male politicians' behavior had almost pushed her to quit and that such behavior was "assumed" as normal - she clearly didn't think it was but I don't recall the male politicians responding. The British journalist agreed on the "assumption it's normal".

I'd like to point out, by the way, that there aren't that many French female politicians currently dating or married to journalists.

Steve Braverman said...

This misses the point. DSK is not accused of seduction or infidelity. He is accused of sexual assault and attempted rape -- crimes of violence. An open mind about sexuality or infidelity should not equate to an open mind about acts of violence.

Anonymous said...

http://www.marianne2.fr/hervenathan/Affaire-DSK-ces-communicants-dont-on-ne-parle-pas_a108.html

a response to the women's column

Anonymous said...

I've read the article. And as a woman, and french, I find it utterly unbelievable : these are supposed to be professional journalists ? and the hand in the décolletage is a usual reaction of inteviewees ? Reading the commentaries makes it even worse, if possible.
Help ! This is not my country !

Arthur Goldhammer said...

So, does "plongée" imply a hand down the bosom or just peering in? I wasn't sure how to interpret that. Not that leering is excusable, but it probably wouldn't get you arrested in the US, whereas a hand ...

Anonymous said...

The meaning of "plongée" isn't clear, but the most likely interpretation is about sight ;-) (see the idiomatic "décolletés plongeants", ie giving a great view on the breast...!).

Agree with Mr Brunet, with two reservations:

1) I know a little bit about the justice in Burkina Faso, and it isn't that bad (I wouldn't appreciate at all my President to take initiatives regarding the Burkinabè justice);

2) Mr Jean-François Kahn recognized the fault and apologized.

FrédéricLN said...

oops, the last Anonymous if FrédéricLN.

Victoria FERAUGE said...

In defense of the women, this is still an "old boys club" and the question is one of strategy: do you play along and hope that one day you will be in a position of power to be able to change the system or do you fight it from the very beginning knowing that they will fight you tooth and nail to prevent you from ever being in a position to make a difference? For all of us who have ever tried to build a career that is the conundrum. 20 years in France, 15 spent climbing the corporate ladder, I can assure you that this is not a simple choice.